Wednesday, January 04, 2006
Frank's Grumbling Cat Jokes
I know I've mentioned it before and I shouldn't go on about it. But the fact is I'm still kind of grumbling under my breath about this. Not that I want to seem begrudging but when someone gets that sort of exposure with a joke you did around 11 months earlier, you start to wonder if maybe you're doing something wrong.
Anyway, Cat & Girl creator Dorothy Gambrell has been running a blog detailing how she spends every donation over $5 - in sketch form of course. It's a pretty cute and novel way to encourage donations. Maybe, we could try something similar. And by the way, Cat & Girl is well worth a read and she's working working on a book.
I was going to say something about the new PVP Alive thingy but, actually, I just don't see the point. I'm sorry if that pisses on anyones parade but I just don't think it adds anything.
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Ok, Dude. You need to get over it. My comic had very little to do with your comic (which I hadn't even seen until I tracked you over here by looking at my stats).
The ONLY thiong our two comics had in common was the "finding God/Jesus" theme, which if you're gonna be honest with yourself is a pretty fucking easy
gag to come up with. I'm absolutely sure that there are others who have used this gag. I haven't seen them, but the idea that you could "find" God or Jesus (what, was he lost?) is such an obvious punchline/caption/comic idea that I have extreme difficulty believing that you and i are the only ones that have ever seen the opportunity for humor in it.
Dude, there are a lotta minds out there thinking of the funny, and we're all gonna overlap a little once in awhile. Getting all het up about it and claiming that an idea is "yours" or that someone got more exposure for a joke comic you ran is getting just a bit ahead of yourself.
To say that "when someone else gets that sort of exposure with a joke you (meaning yourself) did..." is arrogant crap.
I didn't do your comic. I did mine. Mine was funny cause why the fuck is Jesus hiding under the bed? Yours was funny cause God is a bum.
They're both funny. I think mine works better, but they are definitely far apart enough to be considered individual comics, rather than one guy "doing" another guy's comic.
If you're funny enough for long enough you'll get snarked. All this whining just makes you sound like a whiny whiner. Quitcher bitchin' and bring on the god damned funny.
and for the record, my last name is ROSEMIER, not Rosenior.
Ok, first off, the whole thing was said tongue firmly in cheek. Anyone who knows me or reads here regularly knows that I don't really get 'het up' about anything and anything like this is just ballhopping. Even when we did the first one I pointed out at least two sites that had touched on it before and even, if I remember right, talked about it in pretty much the same terms you were talking about it now.
Put simply, we both thought of the same gag and put different twists on it. It happens. It was obviously more of a case of my petty jealousy at you getting websnarked and not us. BTW, just to fuel my petty jealousy, what did that do for your traffic?
And I still think our one was better.
Sorry about the name, I seem to have a habit of misspelling folk's names.
yeah, I'm afraid you've fallen prey to Bif's odd manner Matt - nothing more. To back up Bif's argument, I too remember him pointing out the similar gag in his blog back in February 05 when we posted it. Plus when we did the cartoon we discussed at length whether our spin on it was original enough to run with.
But I totally understand why you took the post up the wrong way. I take tonnes of stuff Bif says the wrong way on a regular basis, and I know him years.
Oh, and it's no excuse or anything, but Bif constantly refers to Robert Scoble as 'Scobie', so you're not alone there either!
ps I like your latest cartoon.
Thanks you guys. Your response to my response was pretty cool and furthers my theory that webcomic artists/authors are pretty cool people. I appreciate you taking the time to answer intelligently and humorously to my comment.
My hits did show a noticeable increase from Eric's good words on Websnark. I normally get about 1200 unique visits a day, but for two days after I got snarked my visits were well over 2,000. I can't blame that all on Websnark, though...right around the same time someone posted a link to my comic on Sensibleerection.com and they were the 5th of a hundred referrers (websnark was 7th).
Hang in there, you guys got a good comic going, and lucky for you (and me) there aint much competition going on in the single-panel format.
If you want some unasked for advice, the best thing I can tell you is to update at least twice a week, and stick to that schedule with almost religious faith. I've been doing Edible Dirt for over two years and I watch my stats with the sort of madness that only those of us with OCD can understand, and I can tell you that when I have maintained a regular, more than once a week schedule, my hits have steadily climbed.
Not only that, but when you update regularly for long enough (as long as you got a quality cartoon, which you guys do), people like Randy of S*P and Eric of Websnark will notice and they'll say one little word and fucking BOOOOOMMM!! Your hits will go through the roof. T'roo da freekin ROOf!!
(for the record I been gently--didn't wanna piss him off now--nagging Eric to Snark me for almost a year.)
ya gotta work at it. Yeah I know by lookin' atcher comic you guys HAVE worked at it, but your update schedule is a tad slow for the typical ADHD inflicted internet webcomic reader, and once a week aint enough.
Try to remember what you looked at on the internet a week ago.
Twice a week, Dudes, I'm telling you.
Ok, for some compliments...(and please excuse me if I've got it mixed up on who writes and who draws)Bif, your artwork is top-notch cartoon art. You have it down and you're capturing exactly what it is that's funny about the gag--which is critical for us single-paneller--in one shot.
Frank, your post cracked me up and made me a little wistful in knowing that you guys have this partnership thing going on. All I got is me *sob!* (don't worry, I'll be okay), and sometimes when I lookit guys like Gabe and Tycho, or James and Mel, or you two, I just get a little lonely and forget to be arrogant and all puffed up about my self for doing Edible Dirt solo.
But then I see something like Frank saying he liked the Jesus meets Jaws comic and I puff right back up.
Thanks, Dudes!
email me anytime,
Katmaidog@hotmail.com
Matt, thanks a million for coming back - and especially for posting such a valuable comment.
See, this is the kind of thing I was talking about when I said we didn't talk enough to webcomic people, and that we could probably be better informed...
I think all of your advice is fairly spot on. Unfortunately, in a way... I don't see us being able to go twice a week right now, but it's something we need to seriously think about. I know it's something Bif has been angling for, but it's a catch 22 position for me - I put shed loads of man hours into this project on a regular basis and so far we have no concrete plan to generate a revenue stream. On the other hand, more regularity equals more readers equals better options for a revenue stream!
I hear what you're saying about remember what you read a week ago, and it's one of the reasons we've been pushing RSS, but I guess we need to at least plan for increased regularity in the future.
For the record, I draw and Bif writes by the way... but the compliments are greatly appreciated either way!
As for the partnership thing - Bif will tell you it's over-rated. But I know it's just bluff. Deep down he loves working with me. (Think Toby in the West Wing)
Anyway, thanks for taking the time and for the tips - nice stats by the way, roughly twice what we are looking at now, which kind of backs up your point!
We should stay in touch for sure and work on exchanging ideas and coming up with new ideas for struggling webcomic folks etc...
Thanks Matt!
Matt, I'll trade you Frank for a bit of piece and quiet if you like. I'm sure I could find someone far less syrupy to work with.
For some exceptionally odd reason I keep thinking your name is Leroy.
And that Jesus/Jaws cartoon would make a pretty nifty poster.
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